I entered myself into an interesting conversation with Thai students in the U.S. I think I have learned a lot about critical thinking among Thais.

Culture

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some different perspectives on cultures...

โดย Jxxxx[3 ก.ย. 2546 , 01:21:09 น.]

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ข้อความ 1 Dear All, I am referring to Nong Nuch's statements on what she dislikes about the U.S. society available at http://www.geocities.com/thaifriendforum/interview.html: ความสัมพันธ์ระหว่างพ่อ-แม่กับลูกน้อยกว่าเมืองไทย My view is Nuch has unfairly judged the U.S. culture. Relationships among family members in the U.S. families may not appear to be as close and dependant as those among Thai family members, but the depth of their relationships lie in the respect they have for each other. The parents would not do too much to help or intervene because they have a different set of belief on how to treat their children. By not dictating their children's lives, the parents are giving the best kind of relationship, I think. เด็กที่นี่ไม่ค่อยเคารพผู้สูงอายุ What Nuch means by เคารพ may be "being obedient." Respect does not necessarily have to be shown by crawling in front of the adults, by accepting without thinking, or by depending on them to make decisions and to support you endlessly. I am not saying which between the two cultures is better. The bottom line is "Do not judge other cultures/people from you own cultural perspectives or values." Also, Is difference necessarily inferiority? Best wishes, Snea Indiana University

โดย Snea (posted from e-mail) [3 ก.ย. 2546 , 01:24:15 น.]

ข้อความ 2 I don't think that she ever implied that the U.S. culture is inferior to the Thai culture na ka. That was just her observation about the way American families function. And even if she did "judge" the American culture, I see no problem with it. We should judge other cultures based on our own culture. There is no absolute truth out there about what culture is the "best culture", and therefore we can only understand different cultures when we compare them. Having said that, let me judge the American culture based on my own culture. There is something about the American culture that prevents you from being sincere. For example, it is considered rude to call the black people "black" or "negroes." Despite such restraint, the racial tension in the U.S. is perhaps one of the most severe. Despite all these concepts of equality, freedom, democracy, diversity, and peace, the U.S. is one of the most unequal, oppressive, undemocratic, non-diverse, and peaceless places on the planet. Such concepts are implanted in the consciousness of the Americans simply because deep down, there are problems. People do look down on each other, but they try to use these concepts to hide the true feelings and to show that everything is ok, when in fact it isn't.

โดย xxxx [3 ก.ย. 2546 , 01:26:00 น.]

ข้อความ 3 In Thailand, we call the chinese "chinese", the indians "kaek", and the isan people "khon isan", and we do not have such degree of segregation as in the United States. We have neighborhoods where all these mix of people blend together. The chinese enjoy "Mataba" (islam food) without having to celebrate the fact that they embrace the islam culture. Besides, those who can afford to say that "I celebrate diversity, democracy, peace", etc., in a sense elevate themselves to a superior level. What they are doing when they say that "I celebrate diversity, democracy, and peace" is to imply that "I am in a superior position, that I can afford to enjoy differences because I am already better off than those ethnic people."

โดย xxxx(continued) [3 ก.ย. 2546 , 01:26:16 น.]

ข้อความ 4 Nuch do have a point in her observation of Extreme Individualism within American Family. But I do agree with khun Snea that "being obedient" to seniors (Runn Pee) is not a value one should embrace without being critical about it.

โดยxxx[3 ก.ย. 2546 , 01:43:30 น.]

ข้อความ 5 Dear All, It is very brave and sincere of Jiab to have expressed such a provocative view of hers in this forum. I just hope she will not offer it in public in America or to some of the U.S. citizens. I do not know of your personal experience with people from this country, Jiab, but I wonder what has justified your statement: Despite all these concepts of equality, freedom, democracy, diversity, and peace, the U.S. is one of the most unequal, oppressive, undemocratic, non-diverse, and peaceless places on the planet. It is definitely your right to say whatever you want, but I hope you will learn more about what is takes to coexist peacefully with people from other nations. I believe and truly hope your attitudes won't necessarily correspond with your actions. Sincerely, Snea

โดย Snea [3 ก.ย. 2546 , 01:47:57 น.]

ข้อความ 6 After reading the above posts, I think the the word "judge" might be a bit overbearing. I think the correct word to use is "compare". Everybody has their own culture and beliefs. We should not judge them, but we tend to compare our experiences with theirs. One thing that is hard and unique in the United States is to meet all these different people from diverse cultures and to share their experiences positively.

โดย xxxxx[3 ก.ย. 2546 , 02:50:30 น.]

ข้อความ 7 "the U.S. is one of the most unequal, oppressive, undemocratic, non-diverse, and peaceless places on the planet." It will be hard to back up this claim. At least I can think of one country in Southeast Asia that is more unequal, more oppressive, less democratic, less diverse, and violent than US of A.

โดย ... [3 ก.ย. 2546 , 06:29:06 น.]

ข้อความ 8 Ha.... But have you heard of the number of Civilians murdered in Iraq? (Is it not in the name of "Freedom and Peace") How about Afghanistan? Vietnam? Have you ever been to US public school and hang out with Blacks and Latinos? I grew up with them. And this is what they say: "No Justice. No Peace!"

โดย Rude Man [3 ก.ย. 2546 , 06:48:23 น.]

ข้อความ 9 very interesting discussion ka. i will come back to post again la khun na

โดย xxxxx [3 ก.ย. 2546 , 07:14:00 น.]

ข้อความ 10 Whatever you say, anger is not the solution. Much of the ills in this world are based on pride and ego. One who hates cannot call oneself righteous, even if one feel the hatred is justified. Anyay, I'm amazed that people read so much from Nuch's statements. It's not like she wrote a manifesto for people to deconstruct for the next hundred years. There's too much stereotyping and presumptions.

โดย xxxx[3 ก.ย. 2546 , 08:29:52 น.]

ข้อความ 11 (from The Beatles) ...."if you want money for people whose minds that hate....all I can say is that you have to wait...." "Do you know what it's going to be?" "All right....All right " (.....guitars)

โดย xxxx[3 ก.ย. 2546 , 08:48:28 น.]

ข้อความ 12 Interestingly, nong Jiab has just demonstrated P'Snea's argument of not "being obedient" to seniority. : )

โดยxxxx [3 ก.ย. 2546 , 22:42:51 น.]

ข้อความ 13 ไม่เคยสอนให้เคารพสิทธิผู้อื่น ในขณะที่ นายวันชัย รุจนวงศ์ อธิบดีกรมพินิจและคุ้มครองเด็กและเยาวชน กล่าวในเรื่องเดียวกันว่า เยาวชนดังกล่าวใช้พลังไปในทางที่ผิด ปัญหาส่วนใหญ่เกิดจากพ่อแม่ต้องดิ้นรนทำงานจนไม่มีเวลาให้ลูก ห้องเรียนแต่ละห้องมีนักเรียนจำนวนมาก ทำให้ครูดูแลไม่ทั่วถึง อีกทั้งยังไม่มีกิจกรรมให้เยาวชนได้แสดงออกในทางสร้างสรรค์ เมื่อรวมกลุ่มกันก็จะมีพฤติกรรมกลุ่มไปในทางไม่ดี อีกทั้งสังคมไทยไม ่เคยสอนให้เยาวชนเคารพสิทธิความเท่าเทียมกันของผู้อื่น ทำให้เกิดปัญหาบานปลายและทะเลาะวิวาทในที่สุด จึงควรให้เยาวชนแต่ละสถาบันได้ทำกิจกรรมร่วมกัน เพื่อเชื่อมความสามัคคี Source: http://www.dailynews.co.th/news/85624.html

โดย Snea [4 ก.ย. 2546 , 00:44:17 น.]

ข้อความ 14 I do not mind arguments even from my own daugher because I have learned from my personal experiences that I can often be wrong or I can misunderstand when I do not listen carefully enough. I admire Jiab for being very active and caring about social issues. My intention was indeed to help remove stereotypes, biases, and hatred among us Thais because these bearings seldom yield any positive results.

โดย Snea [4 ก.ย. 2546 , 01:02:52 น.]

ข้อความ 15 Yes, I think P'Snea made a good point there.

โดย xxx[4 ก.ย. 2546 , 01:41:59 น.]

ข้อความ 16 There're many points I'd like to clarify here. 1. When I said that the U.S. is one of the most undemocratic, etc., countries, I didn't feel any hatred. I in fact have statistics to back these up. But certainly, democracy, freedom, peace, etc., are not exact sciences; they cannot be pinpointed quantitatively. And as a result, different people may have different perceptions of how democratic, fair, and free the U.S. is. 2. When I said, "There's something about the American culture that prevents you from being sincere", "YOU" here means the GENERAL PUBLIC. I uttered this statement as if I were talking to my friends. I didn't mean to target Khun Sanea personally. So, I apologize for any misunderstandings. But anyway, Khun Snea was quick to accuse me of "hate" as if I would be joining the Taliban or Kim Jong IL. I think Khun Sanea should get used to the kinds of conversation we have on this web board. We attack ideas, and NOT THE PERSONALITY of each person. If you don't agree with a person, please comment on the points made by that person and DO NOT SIMPLY ASSUME WHAT KIND OF PERSON HE OR SHE IS because you may not be right after all.

โดย xxxxx[4 ก.ย. 2546 , 04:30:22 น.]

ข้อความ 17 Umm...well, I feel obliged to explain my comments a bit. I just offered my perspectives of American society and didn’t in any way try to pass any judgements on it. I didn’t say that family value was better in Thailand than it was here nor did I say that “being obedient” to the elders was better. I have no doubt that parents here love their kids as much as thai parents do but when their kids are grown up, they don’t get a chance to see their kids as much as thai parents do. (Geographically, the US is much bigger and people therefore tend to move around a lot, you know) Also, youngsters here didn’t have much respect to the elders: they even curse to some old strangers and, believe me, I’ve seen that every once in a while. And that’s what I mean about being disrespectful (but not disobedience). And the fact that I like sth better doesn’t mean that I think it’s actually better: I’m just used to that culture and would prefer that over others, you know what I mean? Anyhow, I hope these explanations would clear things up naka.

โดย xxxxx[4 ก.ย. 2546 , 07:32:42 น.]

ข้อความ 18 ผมคิดว่าประเด็นที่เราคุยกันนี้น่าสนใจมาก เราได้เห็นมุมมองในหลายด้าน น่าสนใจว่าหลายคนที่เสนอประเด็นก็อยู่ในสหรัฐ แต่มองไม่เหมือนกัน ผมเห็นว่าประเด็นที่สำคัีญที่ผมเรียนรู้ก็คือ ไม่มีวัฒนธรรมไหนสมบูรณ์แบบ วัฒนธรรมอเมริกัีนนั้นมีสิ่งไม่ดีมาก แต่ก็มีสิ่งดีหลายอย่างเช่นกัน ซึ่งก็ไม่ต่างกันในวัฒนธรรมไทย เราต้องเรียนรู้จากกันและกัน การเรียนรู้จากกันนั้น เราไม่สามารถเรียนรู้สิ่งดีจากกันได้เต็มที่ถ้าเราปิดประตูตัวเอง ปิดใจ ปิดความคิด เราไม่สามารถเห็นสิ่งดีจากใครได้ ถ้าเราคิดว่าเขาไม่ดีเสมอ หรือมีความโกรธเกลียดความโกรธมาก เช่นเดียวกันเราไม่เห็นสิ่งไม่ดีได้ หากเรารักจนหลง ทั้งโกรธ และหลง (ที่จริงควรจะรวมโลภด้วย) ทำให้เราเห็นโลกผิดจากความเป็นจริง ดั้งนั้นหากเราอยากจะเรียนรู้เข้าใจผู้อื่น สังคม เราต้องเรียนรู้ที่เข้าใจตนเอง รู้จักการลดความโกรธ ความหลงของตนเิอง อีกอย่างที่น่าสนใจก็คือ ต่างคนก็ต่่างความคิด ต่างประสบการณ์ ย่อมมองเห็นสิ่งต่างๆ ต่างกันเป็นธรรมดา เมื่อเราเห็นสัจธรรมข้อนี้ถึงที่สุด เราจะมีความสุขเมื่อได้คุยกับคนที่คิดต่างกับเรา แทนที่จะคิดว่าเขาไม่น่าคิดอยุ่่างนั้น เราก็กลับคิดว่าต้องมีอะไรน่าสนใจที่ทำให้เขาคิดเช่นนั้นที่ต่างจากเรา และนี่ก็เป็นโอกาสอันดีที่จะเรียนรู้จากผู้อื่นเพื่อเข้าใจแนวคิดเขา เพราะเมื่อเราเข้าใจเขา ก็แปลว่าเราเข้าใจสังคม และตนเองมากขึ้น ผมคิดว่าการแลกเปลี่ยนความคิดเห็น และประสบการณ์เช่นนี้มีคุณค่ามาก ขอบคุณพี่เสน่ห์ที่ทำให้พวกเราได้คิดในประเด็นที่น่าสนใจ เจี๊ยบก็ตีประเด็นได้น่าสนใจซึ่งผมเห็นว่าเป็นสิ่งที่คนไทยหรือต่างชาติหลายคนคิด

โดย ์xxx [4 ก.ย. 2546 , 09:22:28 น.]

ข้อความ 19 Based on what has been said, I am curious as to everyones' definition of American Culture. I am taking this one step further as I was born here but lossely follow Chinese Culture.

โดย Garlic [4 ก.ย. 2546 , 14:18:27 น.]

ข้อความ 20 FYI: Here is the original message from Jiab: "And even if she did "judge" the American culture, I see no problem with it. We should judge other cultures based on our own culture. There is no absolute truth out there about what culture is the "best culture", and therefore we can only understand different cultures when we compare them. Having said that, let me judge the American culture based on my own culture. There is something about the American culture that prevents you from being sincere. For example, it is considered rude to call the black people "black" or "negroes." Despite such restraint, the racial tension in the U.S. is perhaps one of the most severe. Despite all these concepts of equality, freedom, democracy, diversity, and peace, the U.S. is one of the most unequal, oppressive, undemocratic, non-diverse, and peaceless places on the planet. Such concepts are implanted in the consciousness of the Americans simply because deep down, there are problems. People do look down on each other, but they try to use these concepts to hide the true feelings and to show that everything is ok, when in fact it isn't." ----------------------------------------------- Jiab, I never did take what you siad in response personally. Anyway, I owe you responses. See below:

โดย Snea [5 ก.ย. 2546 , 00:02:05 น.]

ข้อความ 21 Continued: Jiab: <1. When I said that the U.S. is one of the most undemocratic, etc., countries, I didn't feel any hatred. I in fact have statistics to back these up. But certainly, democracy, freedom, peace, etc., are not exact sciences; they cannot be pinpointed quantitatively. And as a result, different people may have different perceptions of how democratic, fair, and free the U.S. is. > = I add the word "hatred" along with biases and stereotypes, thinking they are associated. I have to agree that the word is too strong. It's hard sometimes to draw a line between "dislike" and "hate", don't you think? In response to your statement above (1), I would not go as far as "judging" the U.S. domocracy if even statistics, as you say, cannot rightly describe it. ------------------------------------------------- Jiab: <2. When I said, "There's something about the American culture that prevents you from being sincere", "YOU" here means the GENERAL PUBLIC. I uttered this statement as if I were talking to my friends. I didn't mean to target Khun Sanea personally. So, I apologize for any misunderstandings.> = How do you know that I do not know what you mean by "you" in that sense? I would retire from my career if I failed to understand the general "you"! ------------------------------------------

โดย Snea [5 ก.ย. 2546 , 00:03:05 น.]

ข้อความ 22 continued: Jiab: But anyway, Khun Snea was quick to accuse me of "hate" as if I would be joining the Taliban or Kim Jong IL. I think Khun Sanea should get used to the kinds of conversation we have on this web board. We attack ideas, and NOT THE PERSONALITY of each person. If you don't agree with a person, please comment on the points made by that person and DO NOT SIMPLY ASSUME WHAT KIND OF PERSON HE OR SHE IS because you may not be right after all.> =Didn't I say that intended to remove your biases, stereotypes and hatred that were clearly demonstrated in what you wrote, not you, Jiab? I didn't even know you as a person; so, I had no reason to attack you. But since you are one of the people dealing with such a wonderful group as Thai Friend Forum, I expect you to think more criticallly before "judging" (your own word) others. When it comes to the term "American Culture", Garlic has brought up a very interesting question and I would like to touch a bit on it. "American culture" is a politically wrong term. The word "American" is not acceptable by folks from Latin and South America!!! So, we should be careful when we use it to refer to only the U.S. culture. Now, the U.S. culture cannot be restricted to only the White ways. In fact, the U.S.A. is so big that you can find sub-cultures based on geographical zones, races, socio-economic classes, etc. This is why it is wrong already when one tries to generalize based on his/her experiences and to explain the U.S. culture as a single, unified "culture". Jiab and Nuch, I invite you both, as well as other Thai fellows, to visit a page at my website: http://mypage.iu.edu/~sthinsan/rulesCT.htm Best wishes, ST

โดย Snea [5 ก.ย. 2546 , 00:03:27 น.]

ข้อความ 23 Noom, Keep that great heart of yours with wonderful attitudes toward life, because it distinguishes you from many ignorant human beings.

โดย Snea ---- For Noom Only [5 ก.ย. 2546 , 00:15:58 น.]

ข้อความ 24 Great strong comments krub! I'm sure Khun Snea and Noom are both "Enlighten people" : ) As for us mortals, we should also be aware that not all ethnic groups in America are in control of power. The playing field is not level. Thus we cannot be passive (and peaceful) in our struggle toward equality and justice. To be peaceful is to passively join the exploiter and to accept the unequal playing field. When we talk about "American Culture" we Thais tend to talk about European-American culture (White). There's nothing wrong with this generalization. Sometime we need to stand back a bid far (a bird-eye view) to see things clearly – this is what generalization does. Our survival is based on generalization. We do not jump off a 3 story building because we know that “in general, there is something that tend to pull us towards the ground and it may hurt” We do not go and kiss a lion on the cheek because, in general, lions have sharp teeth. True, there might be lions that do not bite, but should we risk our survival? Be realistic. So, when we talk or experiment on something, we must use generalization if any conclusion is to be made at all. This is also the process of science and understanding. In general, what ethnic group controls the American decision making process, police force, army, media, and other cultural outlets? All evidences point to European-Americans. And this is perhaps why nong Nuch and Jiab have made such observations.

โดยxx[5 ก.ย. 2546 , 00:56:06 น.]

ข้อความ 25 tt, very well put! I also agree that not all stereotypes will do harm unless they are said or expressed in the wrong place, at the wrong time. Here's my personal view about generalization, though. Generalization indeed is what most, if not all, research tries to reach. However, it is whether such an action is based on research evidence or data decides how valid each generalized point is. I am glad the conversation has moved all of us further. Keep up the good work, TFF! I will not have time to participate as often as I wish, but I will come back whenever time allows. Good luck, TFF. Bye for now.

โดย Snea [5 ก.ย. 2546 , 03:06:13 น.]

ข้อความ 26 Some final words: I need to tell Jiab and Nuch that I ADMIRE them both for being proactive. We need to see more talented women in activities that move our nation progressively. Take my words as the soothing breezes that only want to fulfill the already beautiful and developed souls. I may be both right and wrong. Take the good words with you and forget the bad ones. At least both Jiab and Nuch have proven to me that Thai ladies care about social issues and are ready to share and endure differences. Very best wishes, ST

โดย Snea [5 ก.ย. 2546 , 03:36:17 น.]

ข้อความ 27 Subtle you are, Master Snea. On a slippery slope, one wrong step and one can go from sincerity to insult.

โดย ... [5 ก.ย. 2546 , 12:50:04 น.]

ข้อความ 28 If I were to be hated by all human beings on earth because I say what I believe to be good, or right with sincerity for the betterment of the people around me, I would live with it. Sincerity breeds both pain and gain. Some say, "No pain, no gain." My personal view is that learned people suffer less pain while enjoying more gains from the same stimulus. If I had committed an act of insulting, I might have insuted ideas and attitudes, not people. Ponder my words or ignore them, my Thai colleagues. But I will not not say a word about it whenever I see or hear Thais talking of other races on earth unfairly because I do not believe that such an act benefit us in any way. Rather, it reflects ignorance. Also, the lack of thoughfulness in such an act may hurt the image of our country. Worse, it may trigger problems both to the ones who act and those who react. "Who are you to dare offer an unsolicited comment?," some may ask. Well, I am just a sincere friend of the Thai Friend Forum, who believes members of this forum will treat me as a friend. Friends are willing to listen and ready to understand. Friends dare to speak the (supposed) truth that may hurt. Friends are ready to forgive. Doesn't this forum intend to create "friends" ST

โดย Snea [5 ก.ย. 2546 , 18:07:56 น.]

ข้อความ 29 Please let me share with you some of the poems I found at pantip.com. ๑* สังคมยืนอยู่ถ้า .............. คนดี มีแก่ใจไมตรี ..................... มุ่งสร้าง ความเจริญรุ่งเรืองมี ............ เสริมต่อ รวมก่อบังเกิดกว้าง ............. แต่งด้วยความดี ------------------------------------------------------- จากคุณ : *๑ หากคิดจะแบ่งให้.................. สังคม ทำก่อนจะหมดลม.................... อ่อนล้า จะเล็กใหญ่เลิกจม.................... คิดอยู่ ทำบ่อยจักแก่กล้า.................... เปี่ยมล้นผลบุญ ว่าแล้วก็ขอยก Words of Wisdom มาฝากอีกทีครับ The smallest deed done is greater than the best of intentions. จากคุณ : piangdin ------------------------------------------- แบ่งปันควรหัดบ้าง................... มอบอภัย เขาผิดเราคิดไป...................... ค่นแค้น หัวใจที่กว้างไกล..................... คิดผ่อน ให้อภัยบ่แร้น......................... สิ่งร้ายคลายปม

โดย Snea [5 ก.ย. 2546 , 18:20:44 น.]

ข้อความ 30 Thai poems are what we can be proud of. Here're a few more about sincerity. …. ความจริงใจสื่อด้วย………….. เวลา ชี้เหตุความเป็นมา……………….. บอกได้ มีบ้างที่ผ่านมา…………………… เข้าใจผิด เรื่องจบชี้บอกไว้………………… ว่าน้ำใจจริง จากคุณ : ชารา - [ 20 ก.ค. 46 15:42:40 A:202.129.58.165 X: ] วาจาหลุดปากพ้น.........บางที ทั้งที่จริงใจดี...............................กลับแหย้ ไม่คิดว่าเรื่องมี..........................ผิดท่า คำพูดนั้นที่แท้............................เปรียบเจ้านายตน จากคุณ : อังศนา - [ 20 ก.ค. 46 16:01:24 ] .... ความจริงใจต้องบ่ซื้อ................. มาเอง เมืองที่คนข่มเหง............................ แบ่งขั้น ผู้คนจึ่งบรรเลง.............................. เพลงสะเด่า เลียแผล็บผู้สูงชั้น........................... ยากค้นรากใจ เจอหน้ายกหัตถ์รั้ง...................... คางตน ปากย่องยิ้มใจสน........................... สิ่งได้ จึงหาค่าใจคน................................ ยากยิ่ง ส่งส่วยตามกันไว้............................ เพื่อให้ตนสบาย จากคุณ : piangdin - [ 20 ก.ค. 46 16:28:40 ] คำวิจารณ์เปรียบด้วย............ยาดี เจ็บป่วยจำต้องมี...........................ช่วยได้ ละเว้นหากพ่วงพี............................แข็งแกร่ง มีติดตู้ยาไว้..................................หยิบใช้ฉวยทัน จากคุณ : อังศนา - [ 14 พ.ค. 46 16:41:42 ]

โดย Snea [5 ก.ย. 2546 , 18:41:45 น.]

ข้อความ 31 One more คำวิจารณ์นั้นเปรียบด้วย....................ลมลอย อาจทำลมบ่จอย..............................ติมาก อาจทำคนจิตหงอย..........................สติเสื่อม อาจทำคนรู้ยาก..............................อ่อนเปลี้ยกำลังใจ คำวิจารณ์หากให้ด้วย.......................รักจริง อาจดั่งลมอุ่นอิง..............................คลายหนาวได้ อาจคือลมเย็นสิง.............................ผ่อนร้อน จิตที่ขมหม่นไหม้............................อาจได้คิดดี คนวิจารณ์ย่อมเปรียบได้..................ขี่คอ ย่อมทำง่ายหักงอ...........................ดุจเจ้าหนี้ คนที่สามนี่สิหนอ...........................รับบาป จะวิจารณ์นั้นนี่..............................ควรด้วยหัวใจ จากคุณ : piangdin - [ 14 พ.ค. 46 21:04:03 ] ------------------------------------ Good Bye (for now)!

โดย Snea [5 ก.ย. 2546 , 18:43:06 น.]

ข้อความ 32 Thank you for your compliments naka khun Snea. I wish I have time to write my opinions in this webboard more often. My comments were incorrectly interpreted and “unfairly judged” by k. Snea in the beginning, which is fine. Being a scientist myself, I don’t like arguing on things that would be difficult to find some evidence to back it up (yep, call me a geek and ignorance). Anyway, one thing I know though: people should have the right to express their opinions, being biased or not (and the webboard is the perfect place to do it). If other people don’t agree with those comments, discussions can then ensue. The world would be a very dull place if people are too cautious to say what’s on their minds, don’t you think?

โดย          [6 ก.ย. 2546 , 05:23:02 น.]

ข้อความ 33 รำพึงผ่าน webboard: ปิดปากคนบ่รู้................... แบบใด คนแค่อาจสงสัย............... อยากค้น หากพูดพ่นออกไป............ เผยอก ดังช่วยเขาหลุดพ้น........... หมดสิ้นสงสัย พูดเถิดหากเพื่อสร้าง......... ทางดี เป็นสิทธิชนเสรี................ บอกได้ หากพูดแค่ขอที................ คิดพร่อง จงหัดฟังบ่อยไว้................ จักได้เติบโต ผิดถูกหากบ่รู้.................... กับตัว ใครบอกเถียงเมามัว............ ต่ำใต้ ดังบัวบ่มสลัว.................... นทีท่วม แต่นั่นคือสิทธิใช้................ เรื่องเจ้าตามสบาย

โดย Snea [6 ก.ย. 2546 , 13:47:44 น.]